Dave Ramsey is a genius when it comes to inspiring people with common sense to get out of debt and to live within their means. He gets a fair bit of criticism on his investing advice though. Dave recommends people spread their investments across four types of mutual funds:
- Growth (25%)
- Growth and Income (25%)
- Aggressive Growth (25%)
- International. (25%)
Enthusiastic readers and listeners probably run off to Google to find these 4 mutual fund investments to invest like Dave and build wealth. But the answers are hidden – and followers end up having to contact an investing ELP (or endorsed local provider) that follows Dave’s rules (and pays for his endorsement).
Dave purposely shies away from giving specific investment advice to his listeners. Part of it probably has to do with the rules and regulations around giving investment advice, and part of it is probably because he’s honed his message for simplicity and maximum effect. The problem is: many debt-free followers are left wondering where to invest their retirement or extra money. I’m no ELP, but let me help fill-in where Dave has left off when it comes to investing in mutual funds for maximum efficiency.
4 Mutual Fund Types
Dave recommends investing equally among four mutual fund “types”:
- Growth and Income
- Aggressive Growth
The first problem is that it isn’t clear what these fund “types” mean. These aren’t exactly common terms used to describe mutual funds. So we have to interpret what Dave means. According to several others who have explored this topic and Dave’s own words, it’s fair to interpret his mutual fund recommendations as follows:
- Growth = Mid-Cap Funds (or an S&P500 fund)
- Growth and Income = Large-Cap Funds (which invest in big steady companies like Coca-Cola and Home Depot)
- Aggressive Growth = Small-Cap Growth Funds (which invest in smaller companies poised to grow bigger)
- International = World stocks funds (which invest in companies outside of the US)
Going backwards, international is the easiest one to interpret. Obviously Dave recommends investing in mutual funds that focus on companies outside of the US. The problem is that there are many types of international funds which only invest in China, or only Europe, or only “developing markets” like Southeast Asia or South America. How can you know which one to choose?
Next, Dave recommends Aggressive Growth, which means smaller companies. Small cap companies are considered aggressive growth because they invest most of their profits back into themselves in order to get larger (and more profitable). So, aggressive growth definitely means small cap companies, and we can find funds that invest specifically in small companies focused on growth.
Growth and Income means that the companies offer dividends or interest payments. These companies are usually larger companies that have grown large enough to offer value in the form of consistent profits (think Coca-cola and Home Depot). There’s not a lot of room for growth in these large companies. So growth and income means large cap.
The first category Dave always recommends is simply Growth which he calls the “Goldilocks” funds, because they’re “just right”. This category is considered the foundation of many diversified portfolio strategies. Dave explained on his radio show that this category means mid-cap funds. However, he also said that you could achieve the same “result” by investing in an S&P500 fund. He regularly mentions S&P500 funds as safe investments for people who have maxed out their retirement accounts and need to invest in regular taxable account. This “Goldilocks” category is where I personally invest most of my money. More specifically, I invest in index funds all day long.
Which Funds to Choose?
This is the golden question. Dave purposely makes a point not to recommend specific funds when he discusses investing. He emphasizes that investing in any mutual funds that even somewhat match his recommendation is a million times better than sitting out of the market. He relies on his ELP’s (endorsed local providers) SmartVestor Pros to handle the specifics. Well, I’m no pro, but I can look up mutual funds in an online screener and found the best performing over the last 10 years with average risk (or less). I specifically looked for funds led by the same manager for at least 5 years to fit Dave’s recommendation of fund with “long track records”. Here are 3 example portfolios loosely matching Dave Ramsey’s mutual fund recommendations:
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You can copy these ticker symbols and put them into your favorite search engine (Google Finance, Yahoo Finance, Morningstar, etc) to get more specific information. Or copy them down and ask your SmartVestor to find funds that match or beat these.
All 3 of the Dave Ramsey’s portfolios outperformed the S&P500 total return over 10 years.
The S&P500 is the green line in the graph below. Notice how it’s lower than the other 3 lines representing Ramsey-like portfolios. The dates are from Jan 2006 to November 2015 or approximately the last 10 years.
The inflation adjusted compound annual growth rate (or CAGR) was 10.8%, 10.09%, and 9.49% for each of the 3 portfolios. This essentially means you would’ve earned around a 10% return on your money over the 10 years. In another 18 months your money would’ve tripled over the 11.5 years at that rate. Had your money been sitting in your checking account, it would literally be worth less (because of inflation).
Some people give Dave Ramsey a hard time about his investing strategy being simple, or risky, or just plain wrong. And we all know Dave’s forte is helping people get out of debt. But once you’ve followed his plan to get out of debt, at least start with his investing advice as well, because being in the market is better than not.
Disclaimer: I am not an investing professional. I’m also not affiliate with Dave Ramsey or any company he owns. The above is an opinion and is for information purposes only. It is not intended to be investment advice. Seek a duly licensed professional for investment advice.